Figure compatibility

Figure compatibility
Does anybody know if Old Glory figures are compatible with Perryfigs for example? Specifically I'm looking at their Continental infantry. What I'm considering is using their figures for the bulk of the unit and filling the gaps with Perryfig, Eureka command or buying their troop with command packs and Front Rank casualties using the thought that height differences aren't as noticible if one is sitting, lying or falling down. Thanks in advance for the help. DaveB. (who is, of course, far too mean to buy a pack and find out for himself)

Old Glory had re-done some of their AWI line. The ones I have seen, British, are very nice. The older OG AWI were not very good, the new ones, much better. I have not seen any of the new Continentals yet. I think they would mix very well with Perrys. Just make sure your getting the new figures rather than the old ones. Mike B

I would second mikeb's comments about the OG "1st Edition" not being in the same class as the Perry/Foundry rnage, although the odd figure here and there was worth including as a character or command figure. I've not seen the "2nd Edition" figures, but the ACW and Napoleonic versions seem to be a great improvement over the existing range. The only question is whether you are prepared to wait for the new range to grow - at the moment they have only just produced 1768 Warrant British and a few Continentals in the usual uniform combos. More specific troop types will be quite a while yet, I suspect.

Well,that's nice to hear.For a long time OG 25mm figures just were not very good at all unlike their 15mm stuff that I think is quite nice. Did they get a few new sculptors for their 25mm range that caused this improvement?

Well,that's nice to hear.For a long time OG 25mm figures just were not very good at all unlike their 15mm stuff that I think is quite nice. Did they get a few new sculptors for their 25mm range that caused this improvement? I've no idea who did the AWI figures but I believe the new ACW were sculpted by Chris Hughes of Sash & Sabre (or for you Americans "Saber") Miniatures. Obviously this means that the S&S figures are compatible with the new OG for ACW. The S&S ACW figures I had were very compatible with my Foundry figures (this was pre the Perries getting into ACW again) - what was nice was that although all the figures were marching none out of the 30 were identical, a look I very much liked (particularly when I added in some Foundry and Redoubt figures into the mix). Unfortunately he seems to have been largely diverted from 28mm into 40mm work for his S&S stuff so the range is limited.

.....what was nice was that although all the figures were marching none out of the 30 were identical, a look I very much liked (particularly when I added in some Foundry and Redoubt figures into the mix). If anyone is interested, you can build a 50+ unit of different figures for the AWI by combining the Foundry, Perry and Eureka Continental and Militia marching figures (with bayonets).

Hi, I found some photos of the OG 2nd Edition figures here: http://macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.com/2009/08/old-glory-second-edition-awi-americans.html http://macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.com/2009/08/old-glory-second-edition-awi-americans.html http://macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.com/2009/09/old-glory-second-edition-awi-americans.html http://macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.com/2009/09/old-glory-second-edition-awi-americans_10.html http://macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.com/2009/09/old-glory-second-edition-awi-british.html Quite nice, actually - still not Perry standard but pretty nice. He also had an example somewhere of Austrian Line Infantry in Helmet from the 2ed that looked really good. Regards Malcolm

Me likey.

I think the Sash & Saber guy has sculpted the 2nd Edition AWI figures, too, as the "horsey" faces and tree-trunk lower legs seen on the Continental figures are characteristic of the S&S stable. The British look better, it has to be said. I was hoping for more variety in the command packs - the Continental sergeant is carrying his musket (at "the advance") in the wrong hand, I believe.

I think the Sash & Saber guy has sculpted the 2nd Edition AWI figures, too, as the "horsey" faces and tree-trunk lower legs seen on the Continental figures are characteristic of the S&S stable. The British look better, it has to be said. I was hoping for more variety in the command packs - the Continental sergeant is carrying his musket (at "the advance") in the wrong hand, I believe. I've since read that Chris Hughes did indeed do these figures. I agree tree trunk legs are a bit of a characteristic (even more noticeable when the figure is wearing gaiters rather than the trousers of the ACW figures) but when you see them en masse I don't think its too noticeable to be honest. They look pretty good on their own and I'm sure if you sprinkled in Perry and Foundry figures as well then you could build up some rather extensive battalions. My personal opinion of OG has always been that because of the variable quality of both casting and sculpting from range to range (and sometimes from bag to bag within ranges) you have to see each bag before you buy. The characteristic "falling over a tussock" poses of 1st Ed OG means (IMHO) that 1st Ed OG are better suited to portraying irregular troops (so OG for a Gallic warband would be ideal) rather than formal line infantry - previously they have been totally unsuited (again IMHO) for SYW infantry, to take an example. Americans rave about the OG prices but my opinion has always been that once you toss out the worst sculpts cost savings for OG aren't so cut and dried - with these 2nd Ed figures there are some not so good figures but none that are truly awful. And if this new range pulls in some new AWI punters then thats great - especially as they are likely to nibble at the Perry / Eureka and Foundry ranges once they are hooked, and new sales for the twins can only be good for the rest of us. Having said all that I want to make clear that I'm not anti OG per se - I have several hundred 15mm Napoleonic French Line Infantry for instance that I find perfectly acceptable (but their Austrian counterparts are trully dire IMHO - although the guy that bought them from me seemed more than happy with them) - I simply think that you have to be prepared to search for the diamonds in the rough.

FYI ... Old Glory 15's are a product of 19th Century Miniatures located in Michigan. Old Glory 25's are a product of "Old Glory" and are based in PA. They are two totaly separate companies. Having said all that ... OG are getting better with their 2nd edition. Some of their first edition stuff is very good others not so good. I like their Wars of Religion Range, Gallic figures, Macedonians and ECW. If you have the Old Glory discount card you get 40% off any pack(s). Than makes 10 mounted Companions cost; $1.80 per model. It is hard to beat that for cost. Having said all that, for AWI I would go with Perry's and for the old farts like me, Front Rank. :wink: Mike B

FYI ... Old Glory 15's are a product of 19th Century Miniatures located in Michigan. Old Glory 25's are a product of "Old Glory" and are based in PA. They are two totaly separate companies. Having said all that ... OG are getting better with their 2nd edition. Some of their first edition stuff is very good others not so good. I like their Wars of Religion Range, Gallic figures, Macedonians and ECW. If you have the Old Glory discount card you get 40% off any pack(s). Than makes 10 mounted Companions cost; $1.80 per model. It is hard to beat that for cost. Having said all that, for AWI I would go with Perry's and for the old farts like me, Front Rank. :wink: Mike B Re OG15s - they are separate now but were originally produced by the same firm, hence my mixing references to OG 15 and 28mm troops. My comments re sculpting hold true for both scales - I haven't bought any OG15s from 19th Century Miniatures so can't comment on their production quality but I always suspected that one of the ways OG held costs down was to run on the moulds rather longer they should have. As you say, you have to look at each range (or indeed each bag) and decide whether it hits the spot as far as you are personally concerned. Nothing wrong with that, but I simply will not buy OG (of whatever size) by mail order - the sculpting and production quality, in my experience, is too variable to be worth the risk. It is a shame because if they were more consistent I'd probably own rather more than I do already. But having said all this, I freely admit to being a lead snob, this weekend just past I sorted through three blisters of Battlefront German Infantry to pick out the poses I like (about 50%) - the rest will be consigned to Ebay where I'm sure someone will give them a good home. So far, the only figures to consistently rate highly for me are ABs. I'm pleased OG are updating their ranges - so far everything I've seen has been a step in the right direction - and I hope they continue the process.

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