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Louie N
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 Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: BdeB at a reduced figure scale |
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I am wondering if reducing the figure scale, perhaps to 1=30, dramatically change the play of the game?
Does any one here play with smaller battalions figurewise.
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Greystreak
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Louie, perhaps an easier solution would be to use less figures on your stands, but keep a paper roster of 'actual' figures (e.g., at 1:20), that way you wouldn't have to alter the Firing or Melee tables (or modifiers) to accommodate your proposed change in scale? In other words, a French 'company' stand of four figures could actually be considered a 6-figure stand (as shown on your paper roster).
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Suvoroff
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| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: 1/2 scale |
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You could use the same frontages but only have a single rank, either using some sort of counters, or a roster, to keep track of casualties. In a pinch your troops would still be compatable with those of other players, which is an advantage not to be sneezed at.
It would also somewhat ease the problem that wargame units occupy a historically disproportionate depth.
On the other hand, it wouldn't look as good. But that's your decision.
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giocrippa
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: Re: BdeB at a reduced figure scale |
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| Louie N wrote: | I am wondering if reducing the figure scale, perhaps to 1=30, dramatically change the play of the game?
Does any one here play with smaller battalions figurewise.
Thanks |
For my plastic 1:72 miniatures I use 1:30 scale.
I reduced to 2/3 all I need: miniatures, musketry and artillery casualty tables, melee casualty table and skirmish firing (2d6 x 4 figures if 1st rate and 2d6 x 5 figures if 2nd rate).
I mounted them as for 25mm figures base sizes but in 1:30 scale as following:
Iinfantry companies on 30x30mm bases with 4 figures in 2 ranks.
Cavalry on 20x40mm base each figure (mine is 60x40 with 3 figures)
Artillery on 60x45 mm base with 1 gun and 3 or 4 gunners (each base represent 3 guns NOT 2).
Light infantry and skirmish company on 30x15mm base with 2 miniatures.
The front of infantry is the same as 1:20 scale so we use rate in cm NOT in inches.
We played “Craonne 1814” on a 240x180cm table and the battle was very playable. 12 entire turns in about 6 hours of play.
The order of battle was reduced to 2/3, so a 36 figures batallion now is 24 figures (6 company of 4 figures each), a 12 cavalry unit was reduced a 8 figures and so on….
If someone want new tables of casualty for 1:30 scale, I have it in pdf file, write me at info@giogames.it.
Enjoy the game
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MPHILLIPS
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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If its any help, I do GdB in 10mm, with 60-90 figures per Btn, but I ust the same 1/20 scale for counting..ie a French Line Byn in 10mm has 90 figures, but count it as 36 for gaming purposes. Keeps it simple I reckon. But you could just alter the numbers on the various firing/melee charts and so on. Try both, and go with what you think is best. 
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giocrippa
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| MPHILLIPS wrote: | | If its any help, I do GdB in 10mm, with 60-90 figures per Btn, but I ust the same 1/20 scale for counting..ie a French Line Byn in 10mm has 90 figures, but count it as 36 for gaming purposes. Keeps it simple I reckon. But you could just alter the numbers on the various firing/melee charts and so on. Try both, and go with what you think is best. |
Beautiful effect!
The best batallions in miniature that I ever seen. |
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Wargamer
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| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Years ago we altered a set of rules from 20:1 to 50:1. So a 30 figure Btn became a 12 figure Btn.
A 6" move became 6cm.
Figures firing 12, when 20 men were killed 1 figure was removed.
If you counted each figure as 2.5 figures.
and removed 1 figure for every 50 men killed the end result would be the same in figures removed.
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MPHILLIPS
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Maturin
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Peeler...I love your battallion of 'Nuns with Attitude'.
Very northern.
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Louie N
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the replies.
Gio Crippa I sent you a emial concerning those PDF files. |
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Why, thankyou Gio, much appreciated!