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Axebreaker
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Questions Reply with quote

Hello,I just fought my first BG game playing the Eutaw Springs scenario.We used stand in mini's while we finish painting up the 25's.
I was the only one who had the rules and therefore it slowed us down a lot.
We managed to finish half the game before we called it a night.We expected the game to play out this way as it was just a test run on the rules so no disappointment there.
The game itself is very fun once you understand the concept.The problem is getting there.An index would have proved very useful and page references would have helped within the book.I spent 80% of my time flipping back and forth to cross reference rules.
I have a few questions on rules we are still not clear on.

1.Is pursuit handled immediately or in the next compulsory phase?

2.Unlike Generals can the C in C affect morale even if he's not attached to the unit?

3.When units fire on other units can they pick a unit out or does the fire always spread evenly if multiple targets are in range?

4.When giving orders to brigades is it possible to issue different orders within the brigade?By this I mean can a brigade commander issue 1 unit to hold and another to assault?This question came about because one brigade had unit on 3DP's and another on no DP's and he wished to assault with his brigade but 2 units were at different levels of DP's.We decided that the unit on 3DP's must hold as per the rules,but the other unit was free to assault.Were we correct?

5.Are all morale modifier's taken into account at the beginning of testing of units or only at the point when it's taken?By this I mean if one unit is routing and 2 nearby are retreating do you test morale for each unit with all the penalties even if one or more units rallies before you test for the next one?

6.Can a unit take more then one morale test per morale phase?

7.Can a unit move through another unit and perhaps take some DP's?This is a real problem when militia get in the way and clog up the front for the continentals!

I know this was a lot of questions and I appreciate the patience.Thank you in advance for any help! Smile
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Eclaireur
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there Axefella - glad it went well Very Happy
in answer....

1. You take the test straight away (ie in same turn that you enemy retreats or routs), you carry out the moves during the compulsory phase of nxt turn

2. CinC, like others, has to be attached.

3. A difficult one cos you can also have a priority target - if you've got two 6pdrs firing grape + some skirmishers beside them I'd suggest the priority is the battery ! Equally, if you have two similar targets, eg infantry rgts in line, in front of you, you should really split the fire.

4. Nope. It's a brigade order. If you want to split one unit off, try forming a new brigade in battle, led by one of the CinC's ADCs or even the CinC himself.

5. I would apply all modifiers.

6. No, but of course you could have the unit test then a brogade morale test. If your unit has to take a test as a result of casualties and then a unit in front of it routs and you have to take a reaction test, then test morale once, with appropriate modifiers for the rout + casualties.

7. It can, nb if both units are in Open Order. We just had a question about this a couple of strands back...

happy hunting
EC
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Axebreaker
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll answer by question as well.

1.That's exactly what we did.

2." "

3.I had a tough time convincing my opponent this was the case,because he wanted to concentrate his fire.I said the author wouldn't have bothered with applying the results to more then one unit if you could concentrate your fire which is clearly better,but not the rule.My view won out and I'm happy that I basically interpreted your intent correctly.

4.So,basically due to the fact one of his units in the brigade was on 3DP's he was not allowed to put the brigade on assault orders then?

5.We did this and wow can the troops melt away even on a decent roll.I'm not complaining,because morale is a crucial factor in this game and helps keep the casualties in perspective to history in that troops fled the field in far greater numbers then those killed or wounded.

6.Yes,that was my question really in that can you take both a brigade morale test and a unit morale test in the same morale phase.

7.Problem is that militia cannot adopt open order.I think you said in this situation on the other thread then each take 2DP's if in closed order.I could be wrong.

Thank you for the fast response! Very Happy

Christopher
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mick



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Axebreaker
your question 4.
I would say you can give the brigade an assault order, the 3 dp's don't stop you doing that. The battalion with 3dp's will not be able to charge so it could remain stationary and remove some dp's in the rally phase. The battalion with no dp's could move forward half/full move or charge this would fullfill the requiements for the assault order. hope this helps.
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Axebreaker
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mick,

I was thinking the same thing,so yes your opinion helps,thank you. Smile
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