General de Brigade

Tarleton 1971 · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: The french Irish Brigade

All I have for reference is the Osprey wild Geese installment. Can anyone shed light on whether the grenadier Companies were brigaded together?
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flick40 · Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Location: Florida

I am hard pressed to find any information on their grenadier battalions as well. All my references only mention the individual regiments, most being only 1 battalion strong. French grenadier uniforms were basically the same as the line troops. Bearskins not becoming popular until later in the war except on noted units, Grenadier de France being one. No reason to believe they did not brigade them together but no harm done if you don't. I'm inclined to field the line troops as is. You could use the same figures and call them grenadiers if you really wanted though.
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angus konstam · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject:

Actually, I made out an Irish Gaelic variant of the word "Sassanach" this time, but I've still no idea what that heathen quote actually says!

The truth is, I've no idea about the Irish Brigades, but I suspect due to language difficultires (see above) they brigaded them well away from civilised French-speaking combined grenadier units.

If I find anything out I'll post the information.

Best Wishes,

Angus Konstam
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Tarleton 1971 · Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:41 am Post subject: It is a good question research

I think it would be worth investiagtion. Angus I just bout more of your osprey title's on the russian army.

Is there anything out on the swedish army of the 1741-1743 conflict?
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MR Dull · Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Posts: 3

James Wood in Armies and uniforms of the seven years war Vol 2 says the Grenadiers of the Irish and Scottish regiments stayed with their battalion.

janbruinen · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject:

I thought that normal practice in the French army was to keep the grenadiers in the battalion. They had their grenadierregiments in the "grenadiers Royaux" and the "grenadiers de France". Maybe some grenadiers were brigaded together is special circumstances as sieges etc.

ieracig · Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

(If I'm not too late..)

A good reference is:

James Woods, Armies and Uniforms of the 7YW, Vol. 2, The Coalition Forces: France, the Reichsarmee & Saxony, Partizan Press, 2007.

The Irish Brigade had six Regts, all of them organized on one battalion. Each battalion had 12 companies of fusiliers and one of grenadiers. THE GRENADIERS STAYED WITH THEIR BATTALION. (That's typical of the Irish and Scottish brigades, among the foreign brigades in the French army).

Hope to have helped.

Wink

Giuseppe